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Jul 17 2010, 02:47 AM
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![]() Advanced Member ![]() Group: Drivers+ Posts: 124 Joined: 17-March 06 From: Melbourne, Australia Member No.: 79 |
I'm nearly ready to fit my GAZ Golds but Gaz or Compbrake can't supply eccentric top mounts for the 405 unless they get lots of enquiries to justify tooling up for them so, what's available that will fit or can be modified?
Thanks -------------------- JeffR
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Jul 18 2010, 09:54 PM
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Jul 19 2010, 10:53 AM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Drivers Posts: 176 Joined: 9-August 07 From: Kyiv, Ukraine Member No.: 367 |
I'm nearly ready to fit my GAZ Golds but Gaz or Compbrake can't supply eccentric top mounts for the 405 unless they get lots of enquiries to justify tooling up for them so, what's available that will fit or can be modified? Thanks Can't you just use 205 mounts ? We tried comparing the 205 eccentric mounts to stock 405 mounts - they would never fit as they are smaller and the bolt pattern is therefore also different. |
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Jul 19 2010, 12:05 PM
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![]() Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Drivers Posts: 463 Joined: 7-November 06 From: kaaaaardifff Member No.: 172 |
would imagine 306 ones to be not far off, I saw a 405 lemans sprint car on the weekend that had GAZ and spherical jointed alloy top mount
This post has been edited by WELSHPUG: Jul 19 2010, 12:06 PM -------------------- XU10J4RS powered Black 1992 ZX 16v, standard Ph2 Alhambra 405, 309 Goodwood, 1989 205 1.9 GTi on Motronic MP3.1.
Assisting with a D8 V6 powered 306 Rallye.... |
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Jul 19 2010, 01:59 PM
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![]() Advanced Member ![]() Group: Drivers+ Posts: 124 Joined: 17-March 06 From: Melbourne, Australia Member No.: 79 |
Cheers. What about the 309? Are they any bigger? Otherwise, I might get something made up locally.
-------------------- JeffR
_____________________________________________ D60 XU9J4/Z Track Car 120Kw (160hp) atw N5 XU10J4RS Road Car |
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Jul 19 2010, 09:25 PM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Drivers Posts: 176 Joined: 9-August 07 From: Kyiv, Ukraine Member No.: 367 |
My coilovers have just arrived.
The bog question is whether i can use the stock bearings and top mounts with my Group N rubbers?! Or MUST I seek solid top mounts with rose joints? Many thanks! |
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Jul 19 2010, 11:59 PM
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![]() Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Drivers Posts: 463 Joined: 7-November 06 From: kaaaaardifff Member No.: 172 |
Jeff;
309 is the same as a 205, down to the part number, I would imagine anyone with access to decent machining setup can knock up some ally top mounts to suit, though depending on the cost, compbrake do sell alloy top mount blanks which you just need to trim down adn drill as required. ropdionski; from what I can gather, you can use dampers intended for spherical bearings with the standard top mount arrangement (as long as you also source the correct top spring pan) though you can't go the other way as the threaded section is not long enough to accept the securing nut. This post has been edited by WELSHPUG: Jul 20 2010, 12:03 AM -------------------- XU10J4RS powered Black 1992 ZX 16v, standard Ph2 Alhambra 405, 309 Goodwood, 1989 205 1.9 GTi on Motronic MP3.1.
Assisting with a D8 V6 powered 306 Rallye.... |
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Jul 20 2010, 05:46 AM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Drivers Posts: 176 Joined: 9-August 07 From: Kyiv, Ukraine Member No.: 367 |
Right, but still you would have to have a custom spring pan made in order to accomodate the bearing and top mount buffer, etc.?
If correct, then there's no point in not ordering the custom top mounts with rose bushes made, is there? |
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Jul 20 2010, 09:29 AM
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![]() Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Drivers Posts: 463 Joined: 7-November 06 From: kaaaaardifff Member No.: 172 |
not really custom, just off the shelf.
there is a point to the custom top mounts, less flex and adjustability of caster/camber. -------------------- XU10J4RS powered Black 1992 ZX 16v, standard Ph2 Alhambra 405, 309 Goodwood, 1989 205 1.9 GTi on Motronic MP3.1.
Assisting with a D8 V6 powered 306 Rallye.... |
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Jul 20 2010, 11:22 AM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Drivers Posts: 176 Joined: 9-August 07 From: Kyiv, Ukraine Member No.: 367 |
Right, of course there's a point in going for those custom mounts per se - but not due to inability to fit the coilovers with stock top mounts - that's what I implied in my comment.
As regards the 'off the shelf' deal - would you tend to agree that from the looks of it - these also include the spring pans in question? Many thanks!
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Jul 20 2010, 01:35 PM
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![]() Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Drivers Posts: 463 Joined: 7-November 06 From: kaaaaardifff Member No.: 172 |
they appear to but you'd have to confirm with the seller or manufacturer.
they both look like 205 or 306 kits however, the lower set look like the cheap tat that is hot-tuning. -------------------- XU10J4RS powered Black 1992 ZX 16v, standard Ph2 Alhambra 405, 309 Goodwood, 1989 205 1.9 GTi on Motronic MP3.1.
Assisting with a D8 V6 powered 306 Rallye.... |
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Jul 20 2010, 01:40 PM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Drivers Posts: 176 Joined: 9-August 07 From: Kyiv, Ukraine Member No.: 367 |
You are correct on both counts -
I've received a confirmation from the manufacturer - TA Technix from Berlin that indeed the stock top mount assembly will fit. And yes - the sets in pics are for a 306 by Raceland and something else similar to that. I was lucky to buy German made coilovers at the same price. Will have to try them out this week. |
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Jul 21 2010, 06:12 AM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Drivers Posts: 176 Joined: 9-August 07 From: Kyiv, Ukraine Member No.: 367 |
I just test-fitted the top bearings - they fit into top spring pans. Will add some pics later if interested.
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Jul 25 2010, 05:10 AM
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![]() Advanced Member ![]() Group: Drivers+ Posts: 124 Joined: 17-March 06 From: Melbourne, Australia Member No.: 79 |
....compbrake do sell alloy top mount blanks which you just need to trim down adn drill as required. Thanks Welshpug. These look like they may be suitable if the GAZ shafts have been machined for these bearings--CMB0233.
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-------------------- JeffR
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