Hello all....

I'm looking into purchasing a 405 and Ive found a very nice 1996 D70 405 Mi16. What I am having trouble with is looking for is some basic stats on the above model. Can someone either tell me what the standard power output for this car is and a 0-100km/h (or 0-60mp/h) time.

Ive been looking all over the place and found only info for the D60. I can only assume that the stats would be different between the two (D60 and D70)...

Anyways, any guidance on this would be great, thanks....


Cheers

Chris

Standard brochure figure for 0-62mph for the 1.9 Mi16 and 2 litre mi16 are 8.6 seconds and 9.8 seconds respectively. In reality there's not that much difference so how Pug came up with 9.8 I don't know. Mind you I think in the early 90s insurance seriously shot up so maybe they thought they'd make the cars sound safer.
I'm a 1.9 man. I know the 0-60 was 8.2 officially or 8.0 when Autocar magazine tested it. I still haven't managed to find a magazine review of the 2 litre. But I do have Autocar featuring the 306 S16 and that did 0-60mph in 8.1 seconds and is 20kgs lighter than the 2 litre 405 Mi16 so really it'd only be a couple of tenths slower.
Where'd you get the D60 / D70 codes from? It's D6C and RHY or something... not sure on the 2 litre, that's Welshpugs forte

P.S Can you fill in your location on your profile please.

I'm in Australia...

So maybe Australian delivered 405s coped a different coding..

Thanks Chris

Figures For My Phase 2 MI16

BHP: 155.4
Torque: 138 ft-lb
1/4 Mile: 15.9

Peugeot Figure For:
Phase 1 1.9 MI16

http://www.carfolio.com/specifications/models/car/?car=26862

Phase 2 2.0 MI16

http://www.carfolio.com/specifications/models/car/?car=25971

Thanks
DTORU

Hehe the Carfolio 1.9 figures were provided by moi They had them wrong a while back so I emailed them.

Thanks guys



Chris

The s16 was quite a light car , for the 306 range , as the gti-6 weighs in at a wopping 1214 kgs and the supposedly lightweight rallye is 1163 kgs
Btw , at last count , eight mi16s on pistonheads ..looks like the rising fuel costs are taking their toll

Yeah... Might just have to keep mine. Not selling fpr less than it's worth!

Ok...

After some research and taking on what you guys have said I've managed to figure out that Mi16s up to 1992 produce 160bhp.. And those after produce 150bhp.. (if quoted incorrect figures please correct me).. What did Peugeot change to detune the motor ?

I'm looking at 2 405s currently and one is a 1990 model and the other is a 1996 model. They both are in top nick from the inside out.

Thanks

Chris

Well not exactly because in Australia you guys got the lower compression 1.9 Mi16 which is 148bhp I think and then your phase 2 Mi16s are 155bhp like our phase 2s.

Your car is an Australian spec Mi16. Xu9j4z, lower compression and a cat. New they made 148bhp. Now, much less than that.

Haha you beat me too it. Sorry Kris!

I'm in NZ and in my hand book for my gen 1 4bie it says XU9J4 160HP and I think it says 10.4 compression ratio. If aussie got low compression motors would NZ not have aswell?

Weren't all Aussie and NZ Mi16x4s imports? I can't remember what it was now exactly, Petert knows.

Whats the best method to tell what condition an Mi16 is in mechanically. Obviously a professional opinion is best, but what test should ask to be done? Can I assume a leak down/compression test for the motor, pressure test the cooling system and a proper inspection while the car is up on a hoist?
I only ask because I've found an Mi16 that apprears to be in top condition. Both the interior and exterior is in amazing condition. The main reason why I'm a bit skeptical is due to the 257,000km (160,000 miles) showing. I've only had a very quick look over the car and from what I said before, it looks great. Its a 1993 model if that makes any difference. Is 257K an excpetable amount of mileage for one of these cars if its mechanical condition is equal to its interior and exterior condition...

Thanks again guys.


Chris

Do a compression test. They tend to start wearing liners by that stage but will still run ok. The oil breather/filler pipes will be hard, brittle and cracked if they haven't been replaced by now. These need to be replaced to keep the breathing in check. Coolant check is vital. So while it might look great, you could be sitting on the edge of a long maintenance/repair period. Having said that, a well maintained version will run to 350-400,000Km.

On that note Peter, I found in both my cars the steel mesh inside the filler cap and actual filler to be blocked! I just ordered the two new parts, as I sat them in a parts washer for an hour and still did not un-clog them. In the cap you can remove the mesh, but in the filler you can't.

You can, I have.

Kris is correct.

The breather base (filler) is in 2 parts & you can (carefully) knock out the centre section through the top.
Then you can re-wash & re-use the gauze.