Hey guys

A fellow psooc'er is getting a bulk buy of fibreglass panels done.

Looking to get a bonnett for the track slag but need at 3 peeps to purchase so we only have to pay £100 for each bonnet as if only one peep is interested we have to pay for the moulds which is another £100.

Would anyone be interested???

I'm interested...

Not sure if i want a bonnet though!

What's the weight saving likely to be?

I would definitely be interested, anything to shed some extra weight from my car.

Who is going to make them, as I would be interested in getting a boot lid and maybe front wings done as well?

http://www.agmotorsport.co.uk

thats the guy..we need 3 of us to get them for £100 each.Im only interested in bonnet for now.Gonna get hold of Matt and see if he fancys one for his track car too.

Cool, well I am still definitely interested!

So is your track car on the road and track ready Alex?

we booked to go on a track day at RAF marham in October,£70 per car form 9-5,obviously cones as its an airfield but at that price between 2 of us you can grumble.

Still places left if you interested

I wish! I'm not able to work on the car anywhere near as much as I want to so it is slow progress at the moment

The plan is to have it on the road in the new year, though this might even be optimistic! Once it's done though I'll be out on the track as often as I can afford!

cool.....be good to get out on track together....see2 405's giving it large on track hehe

What has happened regarding buying these? With the forum being down and all is there still the possibility for an order? I am still very interested in getting hold of one.

well as yet there is only me and you interested....we need 3 of us to get them for £100 each.

Im guessing Baz doesnt want one now hes breaking his 4bie

Bugger, there must be someone on here who wants to lose a bit of weight from their car???

Not now no, but i do want another Mi though.

I'm going to try to resurrect this thread again and see if it is still possible to get the bonnets and get an extra person interested as I would still be more than happy to pay £100 for a fibreglass one!

Come on people (if they are still available), there must be one of you interested in getting one!!

Can anyone tell me how much does the standard and the fibreglass one weigh?

+1 What's the weight savings there?

Also interested in the bootlid AND spoiler as well as front wings.

I guess I could try to weigh all of those parts.

how much would it weigh compared to a standard one?

Ok, in the new year I am going to get in touch with the company above and order a bonnet. If necessary I will order 3, then I will have 2 for sale. If people are interested please get in touch asap. The original bonnet is very heavy - I have two kicking around that I can try and weigh. I cannot quantify how much of a saving a fibreglass one would be, but I imagine it will be significant.

i'm interested depending on final price and postage cost
cheers
calvin

Ok, so if Vicky is still interested then between the three of us we could order them. The cost would be (as stated in the original post) about £100. No idea on postage costs though. It will be a very good upgrade for anyone's car as it should shed quite a bit of weight.

yeah i saw you put "about" £100 in you first post but wondered if you had the actual price?

I'm pretty sure that it will £100 + postage as that was the price that Vicky agreed if three or more were ordered. I'll try and get in touch with her to find out if she is still interested.

If you can give me an idea on weight saving and shipping to Australia I might be interested.

Thanks,

Brett

As Brett & rodionski mentioned-we'd need to know the weight. If it only saves eg: 3kg, I don't think it's worth it especially with freight costs to Aust as well.

Can you press them for a more accurate figure?

Ok I will try and get a decent estimate of the finished weight, and I will weigh one of my spare bonnets lying around.

I just checked on the website and for reference a Vauxhall Nova bonnet in fibreglass weighs about 5kg. I will let you know how this compares to the standard bonnet later.

I had some time this arvo, so I weighed the spare cars' standard bonnet at 26.5kgs.

We can use this as a reference to any weight savings the fibreglass one gives.

For those of us installing a rollcage in a N/A application, weight saving will be paramount. My cage will weigh approx 50 kgs, so things like polycarbonate windows & front heated screens (approx $600) are options & can be sourced in Aust.

I weighed my bonnet roughly and came out at around 25kg so we agree on that!

I will contact the company offering the bonnets and request a postage cost to Australia. If the postage turns out to be reasonable, are there at least two other people (not including me) who will definitely be interested? I would like to order them soon as my car is being painted in the next few weeks and I would like to get the bonnet done as well.

I would be interested, depending on postage costs

OK, I have not managed to contact the chap who originally said he could make the bonnets, however I have found another guy in Bude (near where my car is being built) who will make them. I think the best thing to do is to order through me. For people who want one in the UK postage is not a problem and the guy making them will dispatch them to you. For people outside of the UK it would be worth checking the postage costs before hand. The final cost of each bonnet will be around £100 (possibly cheaper but certainly no more than).

If someone could measure the bonnet and if we conservatively estimate a weight of around 10kg then we should be able to work out the postage costs for people around the world.

If anyone that is now seriously interested declares their interest here then I can get the ball rolling!

Based on box dimensions of-

160 x130 x 15 (cms)

for a well packaged bonnet, freighted to Aust, 4 days delivery would be approx £120 tracked (with £100 compensation) 'thru Parcelforce.

http://www.pfwwsg.parcelforce.com/portal/p...searchAgain.jsp

Well there is a possibility that the bonnets may be as cheap as £80 each if we get enough people interested (3 or more). I will use those dimensions to get some other quotes that may be cheaper than Parcel Force and let you guys know.

if you do go ahead with this i'm still interested even though the cambelt snapped on mine but gonna rebuild over summer months and try and get it back on track next year maybe at later date look at doing bootlid in fibreglass too with those mods should be close to getting weight down to 950kg

Are you sure about that quote? If there were a few of you from Australia wanting bonnets it would probably be cheaper to post them together, maybe on a pallet. The kind of postage figures I have been coming up with are over £300

I will try and confirm the cost asap, and I guess all the Australians that have declared interest should try and check out shipping them all together to make sure the costs aren't prohibitive.

I found with their online quotes that if the dimensions exceeded the 160 x 130 x 15 cm (by 10kg), the price jumped to the £300 mark.

A search for sea freight quotes came up with more affordable costs if say, 3 bonnets were sent.

http://www.freight-factors.net

Using Gloucester as the pick up point (hoping that's near you Alex?), 3 bonnets packed 160 x 130 x 40cm x 40 kgs (allowing 10 kgs for packing) for £173 shipped to Melb. They don't give a delivery time, but probably a couple of months.

So anyone prepared to put their hand up for one here in Oz?

One other thing which should be taken into account is that some fibreglass bonnets can begin to lift at speed with a standard single bonnet lock as on the 1.9 Mi16's. Not a problem on the 2.0 litre Mi's as they have 2, or if you're using bonnet pins.

That price sounds pretty reasonable split three ways. I'm sure I could get the bonnets to which ever depot was required to send them by sea reasonably easily.

Regarding the bonnets lifting at speed I was planning to use bonnet pins or possibly those aero catches if I am feeling flash! I probably won't have the bonnet hinged at all but held on four pins, same with the boot lid (I have no hinges left for the boot now anyway as they were cut off when the rear bulkhead was rebuilt!). Thinking about it I probably will get some lockable aero catches so I can secure the engine bay and boot otherwise there will be no other way to keep people out!

Right, I can confirm that the bonnets will be the outer skin plus diagonal bracing underneath for stiffness. If we can get five people interested then the cost should be under £100 each (+postage - for the UK postage is quite cheap, I will confirm the exact cost though).

I want to get the ball rolling now, the guy making them is very keen to get cracking and I can give him my bonnet to make the mould from. Can everyone who is interested please either let me know through this thread, or PM me. I will want to take a £50 deposit from everyone that is interested so that I can confirm to chap the numbers without people dropping out. Once the number of orders is confirmed, the final price can be finalised and I'll let everyone know the outstanding balance.

Cheers,

Alex

Anyone? I would really like to get these ordered before the end of the month. Surely saving 20kg is worth £100!?!

Maybe.. but will it be possible to mount it in the standard hinges?

I would prefer to be able to do that.. as I will keep standard look on the car really.. but then some captive nuts need to be included in the inner skin part...
Also at the front part to make the bonnet catch/lock thingy work...

Probably a lot of hassle to make that though...

I would have thought using the original bonnet hinges would be quite striaghtforward, I can ask the guy making them about mounting the original hinges. As for the bonnet catch that might be more tricky as you say, but there are some quite nice catches available, like aerocatches (although I am just going to use standard pins to save as much weight as possible!). It is a nice simple way to save some weight though without any massive modifications needed!

I'd be interested if at least one other person from Oz wants in. Even at £100 + £85 delivery (1/2 of the shipping costs) would make it approx $AUD 335. IMO a reasonable price for 15-20 kgs weight loss.

Like Black_Mi16, I'd prefer if the standard hinges could be used 'tho not worried if I have to use pins/catches on the slam panel.

I'm interested and happy to split transport costs.

Just need to spread purchases out after suspension buy and starting another 206 project so the wife doesn't get to narky.

Any interest in also getting a quote for copying front bumper/splitter assembly?

If Alex would allow it?

Alex any chance of getting bumper/splitter on a set of scales when you get them?

Might blow shipping price out due to volume for the bumper.

Brett

Sounds good Brett, so you and JeffR could share the shipping, for the bonnets at least. I can ask about the front splitter, it might well be worth me getting moulds made for the parts as JeffR suggested in my thread. When they arrive I will chat to the guy about getting moulds made, and what a copy would cost. I'll also weigh everything! The front bumper is a standard item with the bottom part cut off and the splitter just bolts on. Would you want the brake ducts and everything?

There are now three of us interested, which is probably the bare minimum, but I think we could get cracking. I might just get five made anyway, there might be another couple of guys on here interested when I actually have them in my possesion.

I am going to talk to the guy this weekend, so when I find out costs etc are you two good to put down a deposit?

Hey, that's great Brett. I did a rough calculation on getting (2) x front splitter & guards freighted too. Around the
£265 mark. Let's hope the exchange rate stays good for a while yet.

Alex, have you had a chance to speak with the bonnet man about the captive nuts to work with the std hinges?

Err no not yet I will be talking to him this week though, and I will make sure that I ask all these questions to him (I need to make a list!) Would you both be interested in the splitters? Again the more people that would want one the cheaper they would be. I will get back on here with answers asap.

I'd be interested in a splitter & rear wing along with the bonnet.

The brake duct pipes could probably be shortened to say, 2" & a flexible hose clamped on & directed towards the brakes if it would make it less complex to mould.

OK, the I will get quotes for both items and let you know the cost. I guess he won't be able to give any firm quotes this week, but looking at the photos he might be able to give a rough price.

Would the dudes in Aussie be willing to have one shipped to there for me and then forwarded by someone to NZ?

I don't have a problem, but I'll let Jeff answer as it will be cheaper to ship to Melbourne than Adelaide, and he would need to coordinate.

Jeff, I can arrange a courier pick up for shipping to Adelaide or you could drop off to one of my suppliers in Hallam.

Anyone interested in doing a dry sump group buy at the some time in the future?

Happy to co-ordinate at this end for Aust & NZ.

As far as the dry sump kit goes, let me make a few enquiries as it might be possible to source some parts locally.

The pace kit is 2.5k So not for quite some time.

You already got Peters wares in your sump? He has my gear atm adding a windage tray and extending the pickup. Got a baffled XU10 sump too.