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rodionski
Hello,

Does anyone know of a "Short" ratio steering rack on a 405? I would like to have something around 2,5 turns lock to lock instead of the rather long 3.1 turns.

Would a steering rack from a 206RC fit?

Many thanks in advance!
cybernck
Xsara VTS is like that, fit's on 205, so just maybe could fit on 405 too?

p.s. the term is "quick" instead of "short" smile.gif.
rodionski
QUOTE (cybernck @ Feb 4 2009, 12:30 AM) *
Xsara VTS is like that, fit's on 205, so just maybe could fit on 405 too?

p.s. the term is "quick" instead of "short" smile.gif.


thanks Nikica! I will try locating a Xsara rack to see if it fits.

p.s. Are you sure the term is "quick ratio steering" rather than "short ratio steering"? Do you also say quick gearbox ratios or short ratios? smile.gif

p.p.s I know both "quick shift" and "short shift" are used, too smile.gif
swordfish210
When refering to steering the term to use is "Quick Rack"

Gearbox's are "Short Ratio"

and gearshifts can be both

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rodionski
Many thanks for that! Now, do you have any comments on the actual whereabouts of a "quick rack"? wink.gif
swordfish210
Fraid not. If a Xsara rack does fir then you coud try to find one from a Grp N car and get the associated electric powersteering system to fit.
cybernck
you can get the electric pump off a Saxo too smile.gif.
swordfish210
Saxo pumps are a bit weedy though. A friend of mine was doing an AutoSolo in one and the pump died after about 30 seconds laugh.gif
mandic
So, what's the verdict, does Xsara rack fit?

Thanks!

Cheers

Ziga
B1ack_Mi16
If the Xsara rack fits the 205 straight off it will not fit the 405 subframe.

But the internals might possibly be switched over to the 405 rack-casing...
mandic
OK cool, will get one and try, have spare T16 rack so not much of a problem.

Thanks!

Ziga
JeffR
Sorry in dragging this old thread up, but has anyone found a 'quicker/shorter' rack for the Mi? Can anyone comment on whether a Xsara one will/won't fit?

Cheers
rodionski
No luck on my side.

Even the guys manufacturing quick racks for Ukraine's track cars refused to make one for me.
B1ack_Mi16
Did anyone bother to try then?
Just using Xsara rack internals in the 405 Rack housing?

I actually think that should work.
rodionski
It's not possible to source a VTS rack in Ukraine.....
B1ack_Mi16
QUOTE (rodionski @ Oct 25 2010, 09:56 AM) *
It's not possible to source a VTS rack in Ukraine.....


Can't be to hard to find one on eBay UK though smile.gif
rodionski
QUOTE (B1ack_Mi16 @ Oct 25 2010, 10:59 AM) *
QUOTE (rodionski @ Oct 25 2010, 09:56 AM) *
It's not possible to source a VTS rack in Ukraine.....


Can't be to hard to find one on eBay UK though smile.gif


Right, but then they don't deliver to Ukraine. And even if so, the Ukrainian customs are only waiting for that piece of junk to come - to tax it at 300-400 Euro.
It's a surreal country Ukraine is!
mandic
Beware, UK ones are RHD! They won't fit LHD cars.

Cheers

Ziga
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