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rodionski
Dear all,

A question which has been at the back of my mind ever since I bought my 405 mi16: WHY is the exhaust manifold 8 to 2 to 1, taken that it's supershort and NOT equal lengths?
Why bother going this no doubt more complex and expensive route and not doing a simple 4-2-1 non-equal?

I'm about to send a query to Peugeot - it just can't stop bothering me...
JeffR
QUOTE (rodionski @ Mar 17 2009, 12:31 AM) *
Dear all,

A question which has been at the back of my mind ever since I bought my 405 mi16: WHY is the exhaust manifold 8 to 2 to 1, taken that it's supershort and NOT equal lengths?
Why bother going this no doubt more complex and expensive route and not doing a simple 4-2-1 non-equal?

I'm about to send a query to Peugeot - it just can't stop bothering me...


Hi rodionski,

Don't forget to take the downpipe into consideration too, as it has a centre divider in it & makes the exhaust system actually 2 4-2-1's!
rodionski
QUOTE (JeffR @ Mar 17 2009, 12:25 AM) *
QUOTE (rodionski @ Mar 17 2009, 12:31 AM) *
Dear all,

A question which has been at the back of my mind ever since I bought my 405 mi16: WHY is the exhaust manifold 8 to 2 to 1, taken that it's supershort and NOT equal lengths?
Why bother going this no doubt more complex and expensive route and not doing a simple 4-2-1 non-equal?

I'm about to send a query to Peugeot - it just can't stop bothering me...


Hi rodionski,

Don't forget to take the downpipe into consideration too, as it has a centre divider in it & makes the exhaust system actually 2 4-2-1's!


Hi there - fraid you're not quite right.
The 8 runners connect to a 2-fold chamber where from they go straight to the downpipe which is also 2chamber and then in the end part of downpipe they connect to 1 = which makes the system 8-2-1.
But it is the manifold that bothers me - WHY 8 runners?!
WELSHPUG
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rodionski
QUOTE (WELSHPUG @ Mar 17 2009, 12:33 PM) *
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for one - production-wise it's much more complex and expensive.
for two - why do such a complex manifold and not make it equal lengths?
D.B.205
The 309 GTI-16 have the same engine, but another exhaust manifold - they have all equal lengths.
Click to view attachment
The 8-2-1 exhaust was for 405 and BX. I think the 309 exhaust manifold is better, but 405 and 309 have the same power (on paper).

rodionski
QUOTE (D.B.205 @ Mar 17 2009, 02:33 PM) *
The 309 GTI-16 have the same engine, but another exhaust manifold - they have all equal lengths.
Click to view attachment
The 8-2-1 exhaust was for 405 and BX. I think the 309 exhaust manifold is better, but 405 and 309 have the same power (on paper).


Yes, you are absolutely right. Worth noting that the 309 one yields +1Nm torque at peak though.
And also, almost no difference in power is most likely due to stock intake which is quite restrictive.
hossein G
Just for more torque in the low RPM .
you know the wight problem and flat diagram torque.

rodionski
QUOTE (hossein G @ Mar 17 2009, 04:18 PM) *
Just for more torque in the low RPM .
you know the wight problem and flat diagram torque.


Could it be that the 8 ports were made in order to somehow equal out the flow - say 1 tube of 1st cylinder is shorter, and the 2 tube of the 1st cylinder is longer etc. that could approx make the flow close to equal?
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